Host Matt Kibbe “puts aside politics to have mostly honest conversations with mostly interesting people” on his tremendously popular and always edifying podcast.

Matt recently chatted with one of the most interesting people we know—our own president and CEO Robert Alt.

Robert went on Matt’s show to talk about a super timely issue: The Buckeye Institute’s important legal case—Phillips v. OSHA, challenging the Biden administration’s OSHA vaccine mandate—and whether there are limits to end runs around the Constitution in times of emergency.

(Spoiler alert: yes, indeed, there are limits, and your friends here at The Buckeye Institute have absolutely amazing clients that we are representing to make sure those very real limits are respected.)

Click below to watch their insightful and timely discussion.

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